Joseph HERBERT(S)¹ = Sarah Jane WADE²

Married Saturday 1 June 1907, Register Office, Blackburn, LAN, ENG³

Joseph HERBERT(S):

Born ABT 1886, Leamington, WAR, ENG⁴
Died Sunday 25 March 1917, Jebel Hamrin, Mesopotamia (Iraq)⁵
Buried no known grave. Memorial at Basra War Cemetery⁶
Occupation: Furniture Upholsterer and French Polisher⁷
see Herberts tree for details


Joseph Herberts c1916


Sarah Jane WADE:

Alias Sarah Gertrude WALSH
Alias Gertrude Sarah HERBERT(S) (Saturday 1 June 1907)
Born Wednesday 15 June 1887, 27 St Johns Road, Bootle, LAN, ENG⁸
Died Tuesday 24 June 1930, Royal Infirmary, Preston, LAN, ENG⁹
Occupation: Nurse before marriage
1891 living at 12 Maleston? Street, Bootle RG12 2971 97
1901 Margaret living at 46A Forth Street, Kirkdale RG13 3471/157. Neither Matthew nor Sarah are living in the house, Sarah may be inmate in Liverpool Juvenile Reformatory, W Derby, Bootle. Reformatory located north of Derby Street/Edge Lane (A5047). Matthew is living in lodgings.

Known by the name Sarah. Worked as a Sick Nurse and it may have been because of her work that she found herself in Blackburn about 1906. During the early part of 1907 while living at 18 Simmons Street she became pregnant and married the father, Joseph Herberts that summer. The name Gertrude Sarah is used at this time for unknown reasons. The couple moved to 3 Morton Street, Blackburn in time for the birth of Miriam that December. After a year or two, the family moved to 26 William Henry Street, Blackburn. Sons, Maurice (b.1909) and David (b.1913) were both born there.

After Joseph Herberts was killed in 1917, Sarah married a cellarman, Joseph Walsh who was a neighbour at 29 William Henry Street, Blackburn. There she had two other children, Connie and Freda. Sarah's son Maurice died in 1923 from tuberculosis.

There are thought to be descendents of siblings living in Liverpool and Canada but contact has been lost.

Miriam HERBERTS

Alias Miriam PICKUP
Born Sunday 1 December 1907, 3 Morton Street, Blackburn, LAN, ENG
Died November 1988, 68 Queens Park Road, Blackburn, LAN, ENG
Buried Pleasington Cemetery, Blackburn, lAN, ENG¹⁰
Occupation: cotton loom weaver¹¹
see Herberts tree for details


Miriam Pickup nee Herberts 1982


Miriam Herberts and Freda Walsh c1919

Maurice HERBERTS¹²

Born Monday 7 June 1909, 26 William Henry Street, Blackburn, LAN, ENG¹³
Died Tuesday 1 May 1923, Corporation Hospital, Blackburn, LAN, ENG¹⁴
see Herberts tree for details


Maurice Herberts c1919

David HERBERTS

Born Monday 3 February 1913, 26 William Henry Street Blackburn, LAN, ENG
Died Saturday 18 May 1991, Blackburn Royal Infirmary, LAN, ENG
Buried Wednesday 22 May 1991, cremated Pleasington Cemetery
Occupation: Soldier, British Army
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David Herberts c1943

Witnesses to marriage are Alexander Longworth and Mary Jane Longworth (Clayton) who were married at the same time in the Registry Office (June 1907 Blackburn 8e 984). Earlier 1901 Census (RG13/3911/176) incorrectly shows Alexander and Mary Jane as already married.

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also Gertrude Sarah at marriage 1907, Sarah Gertrude at death 1930
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Marr Cert FBMD June 1907 Blackburn 8e 984

The marriage certificate shows incorrect forenames and ages for both parties which is thought to be deliberate to hide the fact they were both minors and possibly had no parental consent.
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Sept 1887 Sarah Jane Wade W Derby 8b 431 (20 in 1907)
marr cert shows age 21 in 1907 and name to be Gertrude Sarah Wade
likely is 1901 Census RG13 3495 74 Sarah L Wade inmate Liverpool Juvenile Reformatory, at 6 Mount Vernon Green, W Derby, Bootle aged 14 born Seaforth, Lancs. (20 in 1907)
other possibles
Dec 1879 Gertrude Darling S Wade W Derby 8b 590
Dec 1886 Sarah Wade, Chorlton 8c 867 (21 in 1907)
March 1889 Gertrude Wade Birmingham 6d 12 (18 in 1907)
March 1889 Gertrude Wood Birmingham 6d 161 (18 in 1907)
Sept 1886 Gertrude Johnson W Derby 8b 543
Sept 1887 Sarah Johnson W Derby 8b 434

exclude these
March 1886 Gertrude White Aston 6d 405 (not this have cert )
Sept 1885 Gertrude Wade Wade W Derby 8b 389 (22 in 1907, not this have cert, parents James W & Mary Sharples)
Sept 1890 Wade Gertrude Hagar W Derby 8b 566 (promising but death following year June 1891 Wade Gertrude Hagar age 0 W Derby 8b 509)
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Death Cert aged 43

On a trip to Blackpool on the 24th June 1930, Sarah was run over by a motor coach in Long Lane, Ashton. She sustained a compound fracture of the right femur and other injuries and died in the Royal Infirmary at Preston the same day. An Inquest was held by Coroner for Lancashire Southwest 26th June 1930 but no records of the inquest have been located. Compensation was paid by the bus company which Joseph Walsh refused to share with Sarah's children from her first marriage.
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Died at home following a heart attack. Cremated and ashes in Garden of Rememberance, Pleasington
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Audley Hall Mill, Blackburn.
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Birth Cert says "Morris" not Maurice. Possibly named after fathers maternal grandmothers maiden name 'Morris'
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Birth Cert
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D Cert. Died of acute miliary tuberculosis and toxaemia aged 13 following a boy scout camp at Wiiton Park.